Liveposting the Hospice thread

[Pete > You]

Good to know the "FAKE ACCOUNT" J'accuse! thing is still going on at VLV.

[Pete > You]

It was not worth making this thread over.

Verdict: You're the pigs pearls are being held in front of.

On your bike, kid.

[buckytoole]

Shut the fuck up, Buckytoole. You're getting in the way of the shitfest. Plus I disagree with you and agree with Brian.

Edit - an explanation of why I disagree. These aren't my words:

A "concept" is a mental integration of two or more distinct
perceptual units isolated by abstraction and united by a specific
definition, with certain particular attributes or measurements omitted
according to context and for the purpose of distinguishing
characterization. For example: you can take for comparison two
objects holding attributes such as length, circumference, color, and
material composition, and you will always omit three of those
attributes in order to arrive at the concept of a "pencil". That's
because the omitted attributes are not essential to the nature of a
pencil.


(Here's a side-note on language: after the integration is
performed, the resulting concept is retained with a perceptual symbol
known as a "word". This is the function of language: to raise
concepts to the perceptual level of consciousness.)


"Integration" is what happens when a person is able to understand
that an entity three feet long and three inches in diameter (like the
novelty pencils sometimes found in tourist shops), and a separate
entity seven and a half inches long and a quarter-inch in diameter are
both "pencils" by virtue of the characterizing attribute of "a tube
of wood containing a core of graphite used to write or draw".


"Concepts" are what human beings use in order to organize the
evidence of their senses. (Note the difference in the word,
"percetps".) They are the raw material of cognition, which is very
different from perception. "Integration" is both the principal act of
cognition as well as its result (because concepts are open-ended,
and can be integrated into wider and wider concepts). The utility of
concepts beyond the level of percepts is the basic reason why we are
able to, for instance, take aim at the moon with a spaceship across a
quarter-million miles, because we don't have to address each and every
one of those miles as a discrete unit. But they must be integrated
as a concept, and that requires a positive effort of cognition.

and

The concept of a "dog" or a "cat" means that we don't have to
go about re-discovering the identity of every particular dog or cat
that we meet in daily life. This epistemic process means, for
instance, that we can conceptualize the idea of, say, "five thousand
miles" without a radical empiricist approach to distance (i.e. -
discrete identification of every "mile" unit of measure along the
way), and the implications are profound. It's a crucial device by
which to, for example, explore interstellar space without leaving the
planet.


(The "caveat", above, has to do with context. For example, the
concept of a cat is necessarily -- but not arbitrarily -- revised in
the instance of a personal pet, according to distinct concepts which
themselves are "distingushing characteristic(s)" comprising the
distinct concept, "pet cat". This is crucial: the contextual nature
of knowledge does not imply whimsy. Another good example -- one my
personal faves and on which I've written before -- is the concept of
"light", which has seen extensive, but reality based revision since
the first humanid looked up at bright things in the sky. Those
original concepts -- "sun", "stars" -- are not invalid because we now
have, say, quartz-halogen sources, but they are subject to context
when referring to "light".)

you're not entitled to an opinion if you don't know shit

i defer to my betters, and yeah you're right, i ruined that shit, feeling bad for it.

[Pete > You]

It's cool man, no condescension or anything on my part. No shame in an honest mistake.

[wounderaser]

hahahahahaha

[truebluecolbz]

yeah colbz is a moistmaker. you need to get laid pete...

[Pete > You]

I'm glad to see sarcasm doesn't go over your head.

[truebluecolbz]

pete you're life/less. cmhwak died with 1.0

[brianutatx]

pete you're life/less. cmhwak died with 1.0

You've already convinced us that you're really cool Colby, you don't need to keep trying.

[Karst]

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