buy my label's first release! [The Pine]

[xrobotsx]

alex im like sooo stoked about punk001.zip omg tyvm dad!!!!

[alexander]

np son. hope you like it.

[Josefine]

i make cd-r's for less than 1£ (GB pd).. i can do it for 0,8 US $ each in presses of 100..

edit: ... everything included.

[alexander]

with everything included? how do you manage that? shipping from Norway to USA is approx. £3. if you now add buying envelopes and other packaging material, the CD-Rs themselves,160g paper with high quality print, PayPal fees, etc - you'll get over £4 worth of expenses.

[Josefine]

my point was not to say you're lying or anything in that direction at all, but that researching and diy-ing can save you a lot... and somewhat that i can't understand why you would ever think cd-r's are cheaper.. cost-effectiveness is exactly the reason for cd-r > cd.

[alexander]

save me a lot how? there are no cheaper CD-Rs with clear surfaces available to me. shipping costs what shipping costs. PayPal fees are PayPal fees. I won't get any cheaper deals on printing in this city either. feel free to enlighten me as to how I can «save a lot» by «researching and diy-ing», because I really honestly don't know what you are talking about here.

no one has ever said that CD-Rs are cheaper. if you read a few pages back or so, you'll actually see me pointing out that CD-Rs are more expensive than CDs.

also are you saying that £4 is expensive for a CD? over here £4 covers two packs of milk. or a (really small) cheese. or a bread (maybe two really cheap ones). the price of £4 results in me earning a little cash on domestic shipping (I'm assuming approximately no one from Norway will order though...), and lose some when shipping to the US. I also give out free copies if anyone would show up on my doorstep asking for one. £4 per record is hardly making me rich...

[Josefine]

are you saying that £4 is expensive for a CD?

hey, would you relax man? i'm trying to be a little supportive here, not critizing you.

no one has ever said that CD-Rs are cheaper.

i just did. they are way cheaper. making cd's would require that you pay for setup charges, mastering, production of glass masters. etc etc etc.

feel free to enlighten me as to how I can «save a lot» by «researching and diy-ing», because I really honestly don't know what you are talking about here.

nierle.de eg. sells cd-r's "clearface" for .13$ - its really worth it spending some hours looking for the best resellers.

[alexander]

hey, would you relax man? i'm trying to be a little supportive here, not critizing you.

it was just a question. but I can see how that could be interpreted aggressive. (but that's communicating without seeing each other for you, heh.) I assure it was not intended that way though. I was just genuinely curious. :-)

i just did. they are way cheaper. making cd's would require that you pay for setup charges, mastering, production of glass masters. etc etc etc.

cd duplication is far cheaper and more time-effective than doing CD-Rs. you don't need mastering and blah. if you do that yourself you can just pay for CD duplication, which is way cheaper than CD-Rs.

nierle.de eg. sells cd-r's "clearface" for .13$ - its really worth it spending some hours looking for the best resellers.

I live in Norway. anything worth more than £18-ish will cost me an extra 25% of the overall value, plus a £8-ish fee. and shipping comes in addition to all this, of course. that will make those a lot more expensive than the ones I buy. they cost £0.37 per CD-R - shipping included.

[Josefine]

cd duplication is far cheaper and more time-effective than doing CD-Rs. you don't need mastering and blah. if you do that yourself you can just pay for CD duplication, which is way cheaper than CD-Rs.

you still need to pay for setup fees and the glassmaster (of which is cannot be made without) - not to mention that you have to buy in larger quantities.

I live in Norway. anything worth more than £18-ish will cost me an extra 25% of the overall value, plus a £8-ish fee. and shipping comes in addition to all this, of course. that will make those a lot more expensive than the ones I buy. they cost £0.37 per CD-R - shipping included.

afaik nierle will add tax themselves, saving you the toll expenses. i bought from there multiple times without toll - which they do a good job of in denmark, adding about 50-100$ of each and every order. (the toll office that is)

[alexander]

you still need to pay for setup fees and the glassmaster (of which is cannot be made without) - not to mention that you have to buy in larger quantities.

obviously we are talking larger quantities, yes. for 50x, CD-Rs are probably cheaper.

afaik nierle will add tax themselves, saving you the toll expenses. i bought from there multiple times without toll - which they do a good job of in denmark, adding about 50-100$ of each and every order.

taxes and customs are not the same thing. Norwegian customs look through everything that isn't a non-suspicious gift, a book, or worth less than ~£18. thus I will have to add 25% plus a fee of ~£9 to each order.